Meghan Markle Podcast on Spotify, First Episode Released with Pal Serena Williams

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry announced a partnership with Spotify and its production company Archewell Audio in 2020.


Meghan Markle podcast dropped!

The Duchess of Sussex hosts the first full episode of Archetypes on Tuesday. Meghan Markle and Prince Harry announced a “multi-year partnership” between Spotify and its production company Archewell Audio for 2020. 

Her first guest is longtime friend and tennis champion Serena Williams.

At the beginning of the episode, Meghan, 41, says how when she was an 11-year-old girl, she saw a Procter & Gamble (P&G) commercial promoting dish soap specifically for women. I was angry,” she said.

She took action by running a “letter campaign” on powerful figures, including then First Lady Hillary Clinton, and it worked. The company changed the wording of the commercial. Meghan said of the experience, “Our society has locked women in, held them back, tried to tell them what to do, millions of people large and small. It was called “awakening to the way things are”.

I have never lost touch with this reality. Over the past few years, my desire to do something about it has grown, and my 11-year-old voice has become a little more confident – says Meghan.

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Meghan and Serena’s conversation revolved around ambition

“I don’t remember ever personally feeling the negative connotation behind the word ‘ambitious’ until I started dating my now husband,”- says Meghan. Furthermore, she added, “And um, apparently ambition is, uh… a terrible, terrible thing, for a woman that is — according to some. So, since I’ve felt the negativity behind it, it’s really hard to un-feel it. I can’t unsee it, either, in the millions of girls and women who make themselves smaller — so much smaller — on a regular basis.”


Prince Harry interrupts the interview to greet Serena before the ladies can begin their conversation. “I like what you’ve done with your hair! That’s a great vibe,”- he mentioned.

Reflecting on her ambition, Serena compared how men and women view things differently.

“You know, if a man is ambitious, am I saying? Am I bringing down society by saying a woman is something different than ambitious? Or what do I think of women that are ambitious?” – the athlete said. “If we are ambitious or have goals or achieve them, women are definitely often put in these different boxes”.

Selena also talked about balancing her tennis career with the pressures of being a mother to her 4-year-old daughter, Olympia. She remembered when Olympia broke her wrist on the eve of her appearance at the French Open.

Meghan Markle and Serena Williams
Meghan Markle and Serena Williams (Credit: KEVIN MAZUR/GETTY)

“I somehow managed to win, but I was so emotionally spent and just like so emotionally drained that it was, it was crazy,” – she added.  “And, you know, and then like every night after that, I just was with her the whole time and was like you’re going to be with me. I just took a lot on. But moms do a lot. Like I look at my mom, I don’t know how she had five kids. I don’t know”.

According to a previously shared press release, the series is intended to investigate labels trying to hold back women. Speaking to historians and experts, Meghan said, “I’m uncovering the origins of these stereotypes and engaging in uncensored conversations with women who know all too well how these stereotypes shape their stories.”


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